Super Soldiers

17th Jun 2022, 12:00 AM in Trials of the Tesseract
Super Soldiers
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17th Jun 2022, 12:00 AM
At least it's not as bad as 3.5's +8 level adjustment for vampires. But maybe it should be? Guess we'll find out.


17th Jun 2022, 1:27 AM
Ooh boy, a +5 level adjustment? This is a juicy template indeed.

Now what class will he pick? Fighter is an obvious choice, unless there's a class made for super soldiers? But if Kevin had one I'm sure it would have been suggested.

Also how does Gwyn feel about playing Tony/Rob's dad? Did she come up with the idea or was this a Kevin proposal?
17th Jun 2022, 11:09 AM
At this point in the campaign Timely hasn't published any Super Soldier-specific classes, most people pair them with a melee class for the stat boosts (although some swear by ranged gun builds with them as well ;) )

The reasons for Gwyn playing Howard will definitely come up later in the chapter.
17th Jun 2022, 12:10 PM
She just wants to tell Rob "Who's your daddy? I am!", doesn't she? ;)
17th Jun 2022, 12:47 PM
Unfortunately Rob is very emphatically not into that shit. If it was anyone else... no comment. XD
17th Jun 2022, 2:33 PM
...which is why Gwen would use this for leverage in their relationship. ;)

(Since I am the type to seriously and foolishly argue with an author about this kind of thing, yes, I am joking. XP)
17th Jun 2022, 12:08 PM
Heh, yeah. I kind of understand the technical side of things. Okay, not really, but I can make educated guesses. Still, that template I posted a little while ago, "Man Plus", the serial-numbers-filed-off version of Captain America-esque Super Soldiers, but for GURPS? Yeah, to put the cost of that template into perspective, a regular GURPS PC is expected to cost around 150 CP in Fourth Edition (older editions aimed for 100, but some stuff is more expensive now so they raised it). That template is 500, and the worked out version that actually is designed to be a version of Captain America is actually priced at almost 1000 CP!

Getting back to the comic, so does that mean the template can only be applied once your character hits that minimum level, or does is it meant for a game where you're characters already start at that level?
18th Jun 2022, 10:48 AM
There's different ways, but in D&D 3.5, the way it works usually is you don't take class levels until you've paid off the LA.
For example, if everyone is starting a level 7 D&D game, and someone wanted to take a +5 LA template, they will first get the template and then only get 2 class levels (7-5=2), while everyone else gets 7 class levels.

As for what happens if you're in a campaign that starts at level 1, or you acquire the template mid campaign (like say a werewolf template) there are I think a few ways it can be handled.

One is that there's an XP penalty, you don't gain any more class levels until you gain enough xp to pay off your template's LA. So for a +5 LA, you need 5 levels worth of XP.

Another is that your template is you progress in your template. Like if you are a vampire template, maybe you slowly gain the powers of being a vampire, unlocking new parts each level, as if levelling in a class. A Super Soldier would be slowly getting accustomed or developing their powers, until they reach full power at level 5. Then the next level they can finally take levels in a class.

Hope that helps a bit, I'm sure there are more experienced people who can explain this stuff better than I can.
18th Jun 2022, 1:37 PM
Thanks. That helps, at least a little. :)
17th Jun 2022, 3:51 PM
Captain Nukem
Hmm, now you made me think about super soldiers versus vampires. Maybe I'll do something like that once I finish one of my current campaigns (I already have two running and one waiting).

I remember there was a videogame about nazi vampires and French (I think?) werewolves. Sadly, forgot the name.
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